DirectIN Rotary Controller on Mac OS 10.10 (case 19155)

Hi all,

I'm trying to use the DirectIN Rotary Controller on Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite. It is not registering as a keyboard. It is being detected as an "Analog Scale Device", as part of the USB system information. I've reproduced all of the system information below:

Product ID: 0x0060
Vendor ID: 0x04db
Version: 0.01
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Empirisoft Corporation
Location ID: 0x14500000 / 9
Current Available: 500
Current Required: 100

Right now it isn't in any way responsive. I'm wondering if it is a firmware issue, but I couldn't find a link to firmware upgrades.

Hi,

The Rotary Controller is designed to appear to your computer as a standard joystick, one with two pushbuttons and analog activity on the X-axis. So it's not surprising that you aren't seeing any keyboard output.

How were you planning to use the controller?

John

[QUOTE=JEC;21397]Hi,

The Rotary Controller is designed to appear to your computer as a standard joystick, one with two pushbuttons and analog activity on the X-axis. So it's not surprising that you aren't seeing any keyboard output.

How were you planning to use the controller?

John[/QUOTE]

Ah. We were hoping to integrate it with psychopy. Knowing that it acts as a joystick instead of a keyboard should make it easier to get the correct python packages to access it. Thank you very much.

Also, your website (about the Rotary Controller) currently says:
[LIST][*]Boxes should work properly with virtually all software as they will appear to the computer as regular keyboards.[/LIST]

This should probably be changed to say appear to computer as regular joystick to avoid this confusion in the future.

[QUOTE=hbacovci;21398]Ah. We were hoping to integrate it with psychopy. Knowing that it acts as a joystick instead of a keyboard should make it easier to get the correct python packages to access it. Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]

Just curious - have you had any luck using the controller with your software?

[QUOTE=JEC;21401]Just curious - have you had any luck using the controller with your software?[/QUOTE]

Yes. There were some issues, but they had to do with the software's joystick integration in general as opposed to an empirisoft specific problem.

[QUOTE=hbacovci;21402]Yes. There were some issues, but they had to do with the software's joystick integration in general as opposed to an empirisoft specific problem.[/QUOTE]

Would you mind giving some more information regarding how you got this set up to work? I just purchased the DirectIN Rotary Controller with the intention of using it in PsychoPy2 as well, and so far I cannot get the program to recognize it. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=jvcasill;21421]Would you mind giving some more information regarding how you got this set up to work? I just purchased the DirectIN Rotary Controller with the intention of using it in PsychoPy2 as well, and so far I cannot get the program to recognize it. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Sure. I had to manually create the joystick object using pyglet, instead of using the PsychoPy joystick functions. See the code below for a minimal working example.

[CODE]
import pyglet
joysticks = pyglet.input.get_joysticks()


for joy in joysticks:
if joy.device.name == 'Analog Scale Device':
joy.open()
break

def present_pair_joystick(trial,isi,curdata): #trial is a sound object, isis is the time to wait after response/end of sound, and curdata is a dictionary used to store response data
event.clearEvents()
while joy.buttons[0] or joy.buttons[1]:
continue
curdata['trial_start']=time.time()
trial.play()
dur = trial.getDuration()
while True:
if not (joy.buttons[0] and joy.buttons[1]):
if joy.buttons[0]:
curdata['rt'] = time.time() - curdata['trial_start']
curdata['resp'] = 'Word'
break
elif joy.buttons[1]:
curdata['rt'] = time.time() - curdata['trial_start']
curdata['resp'] = 'Nonword'
break
if 'escape' in event.getKeys():
core.quit()
if time.time() - curdata['trial_start'] > dur:
core.wait(isi)
else:
core.wait((dur - (time.time() - curdata['trial_start'])) + isi)
curdata['dur'] = dur
return

[/CODE]

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=hbacovci;21422]Sure. I had to manually create the joystick object using pyglet, instead of using the PsychoPy joystick functions. See the code below for a minimal working example.

[CODE]
import pyglet
joysticks = pyglet.input.get_joysticks()


for joy in joysticks:
if joy.device.name == 'Analog Scale Device':
joy.open()
break

def present_pair_joystick(trial,isi,curdata): #trial is a sound object, isis is the time to wait after response/end of sound, and curdata is a dictionary used to store response data
event.clearEvents()
while joy.buttons[0] or joy.buttons[1]:
continue
curdata['trial_start']=time.time()
trial.play()
dur = trial.getDuration()
while True:
if not (joy.buttons[0] and joy.buttons[1]):
if joy.buttons[0]:
curdata['rt'] = time.time() - curdata['trial_start']
curdata['resp'] = 'Word'
break
elif joy.buttons[1]:
curdata['rt'] = time.time() - curdata['trial_start']
curdata['resp'] = 'Nonword'
break
if 'escape' in event.getKeys():
core.quit()
if time.time() - curdata['trial_start'] > dur:
core.wait(isi)
else:
core.wait((dur - (time.time() - curdata['trial_start'])) + isi)
curdata['dur'] = dur
return

[/CODE]

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]


Thank you for your reply. I am trying got conduct a two-alternative forced choice experiment. I was under the impression that this button box worked like a keyboard, not a joystick. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience outside of the builder view. Do you think it would be possible to use your code in a custom code snippet inside one of my trials? In other words I could replace the keyboard response component with a custom component. I tried this without any luck so far. Thanks again for any help.

[QUOTE=jvcasill;21423]Thank you for your reply. I am trying got conduct a two-alternative forced choice experiment. I was under the impression that this button box worked like a keyboard, not a joystick. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience outside of the builder view. Do you think it would be possible to use your code in a custom code snippet inside one of my trials? In other words I could replace the keyboard response component with a custom component. I tried this without any luck so far. Thanks again for any help.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I'm not experienced with the builder view, so I'm not sure exactly how to go about implementing it. It should be possible to set up something with coding custom code snippet. I'd get in touch with the PsychoPy community and ask about how to implement joystick input in the builder view. Best of luck!

Hi,

I purchased the DeirectIN rotary controller. I use E-Prime (it's what me department has), and while the PCs I use for my experiments recognize the device, E-Prime refuses to recognize the device. Their troubleshooting guide indicated that I require a .dll file to force E-prime to recognize the device (see: [URL]https://support.pstnet.com/entries/96894068-INFO-USB-device-compatibility-with-E-Prime-19547-[/URL]).

Is such a file available? Thanks!



[QUOTE=hbacovci;21422]Sure. I had to manually create the joystick object using pyglet, instead of using the PsychoPy joystick functions. See the code below for a minimal working example.

[CODE]
import pyglet
joysticks = pyglet.input.get_joysticks()


for joy in joysticks:
if joy.device.name == 'Analog Scale Device':
joy.open()
break

def present_pair_joystick(trial,isi,curdata): #trial is a sound object, isis is the time to wait after response/end of sound, and curdata is a dictionary used to store response data
event.clearEvents()
while joy.buttons[0] or joy.buttons[1]:
continue
curdata['trial_start']=time.time()
trial.play()
dur = trial.getDuration()
while True:
if not (joy.buttons[0] and joy.buttons[1]):
if joy.buttons[0]:
curdata['rt'] = time.time() - curdata['trial_start']
curdata['resp'] = 'Word'
break
elif joy.buttons[1]:
curdata['rt'] = time.time() - curdata['trial_start']
curdata['resp'] = 'Nonword'
break
if 'escape' in event.getKeys():
core.quit()
if time.time() - curdata['trial_start'] > dur:
core.wait(isi)
else:
core.wait((dur - (time.time() - curdata['trial_start'])) + isi)
curdata['dur'] = dur
return

[/CODE]

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]